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    Posted: 07 Aug 2011 at 8:24am
At the end of the summer I will be with my family at the ocean for supposively a vacation with them.  One of my brothers has told me that there is enough room for me to join with his family and stay with them.  He has an 8 year old son who is a needy child as far as attention.  In the past, whenever our family is together, I miss out on the adult conversations and activities because Andrew will stick to me like glue.  He will just talk my ear off excessively or follow me around to get me to listen to him. It seems like no matter who is around, this child will seek me out of everyone.  In the past few years, he tells his parents that he wants me to himself.  One family gathering we were all sitting around talking and connecting as a family.  Andrew stood in front of me blocking me from the conversations and just talked at me for what seemed like forever.  When I leave these family gatherings, I am drained and angry because I missed another opportunity to connect with the rest of my family.  This July my father passed away and after the funeral we had a party to celebrate my dad's life.  Family and friends were all sitting out on my one of my brothers decks and we were all talking and telling stories about my dad.  One of my other brothers (Andrew's dad) came up to me and asked me to go out and play around the world with his son.  I said, Gary, we are all sitting around talking and telling stories about dad.  Gary said, we have been doing that all day.  I think this is the first time I realized that it is also the parents who may possibly want me to give Andrew my undivided attention because it makes it easier for them.  This creates a dilema for me for several reasons.  One being I think children need to be seen and heard and they are very important little people.  But I just don't have to give to Andrew what he is demanding and now his father is requesting of me.  Another is, my brothers and their families and my mom are my family because I am a single woman without any children of my own.  While it can be challenging to be with them at times, they are the only family I have so I do not want to isolate myself from them because of problem.  I want to make it work.  Families are important parts of our lives and an established way to connect to people.  Any suggestions on how I can see and love my nephew but also get in my adult time and relaxation?  I am finding that I am wanting to run from Andrew because I just don't have what he needs and wants.  Running from a child in my opinion is not the answer.  I also car for others peoples children very part time as a nanny.  So on weeks I do that, I crave adult connections more so.  
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Hi Sharr,
Thanks for this opportunity to Love & accept you.

At the end of the summer I will be with my family at the ocean for supposively a vacation with them.  Awesome opportunity to share Real Love with them & practice being Loving Thumbs Up

One of my brothers has told me that there is enough room for me to join with his family and stay with them.   Loving on his part Smile

He has an 8 year old son who is a needy child as far as attention.
Aren't all children, at this age? He's still lovable & acceptable Approve

In the past, whenever our family is together, I miss out on the adult conversations and activities because Andrew will stick to me like glue.
He's making a choice to include you, that's a gift in & of itself.

 He will just talk my ear off excessively or follow me around to get me to listen to him.
What an opporturnity to gift him with the necessary Love & acceptance he is letting you know that he "needs"

 It seems like no matter who is around, this child will seek me out of everyone. 
You will SEE the gift in it, when your "need" for Love & acceptance is met. I SEE you clearly here and am offering you my Love & acceptance in this moment Wink

In the past few years, he tells his parents that he wants me to himself.
Again, a choice on his part...Can you SEE the gift in this, yet?

 One family gathering we were all sitting around talking and connecting as a family.  Andrew stood in front of me blocking me from the conversations and just talked at me for what seemed like forever. 
I understand, If your bucket is empty you know how to get it filled. He doesn't have that. Can you SEE the opportunity to be Loving, here? It makes sense that "in the past" it was this way, you didn't have Real Love to offer him 'at that time' Things are different for you, today.
If you go there in fear, you will have this kind of result. If you go there absolutely loved & accepted, you will be able to experience a different result. Does that appeal to you? Big smile


When I leave these family gatherings, I am drained and angry because I missed another opportunity to connect with the rest of my family. 
Totally understandable. Loving & accepting you in this moment. You may discover for yourself that things can go differently IF you put action into what you have already learned Hug

This July my father passed away and after the funeral we had a party to celebrate my dad's life.  Family and friends were all sitting out on my one of my brothers decks and we were all talking and telling stories about my dad.  One of my other brothers (Andrew's dad) came up to me and asked me to go out and play around the world with his son.  I said, Gary, we are all sitting around talking and telling stories about dad.  Gary said, we have been doing that all day.
Truth-telling would have helped you, here. You had the opportunity say, "I'm too empty & afraid" or "I don't have enough Love to offer him in the form of Unconditional Love & acceptance." Today, you do know how to remedy that-making a Real Love call! Wink

  I think this is the first time I realized that it is also the parents who may possibly want me to give Andrew my undivided attention because it makes it easier for them. 
You're free to choose what you want to do at any given moment. Keep some numbers of people in Real Love handy. We will gift you with the necessary love & acceptance you will need in those moments Thumbs Up

This creates a dilema for me for several reasons.  One being I think children need to be seen and heard and they are very important little people.  But I just don't have to give to Andrew what he is demanding and now his father is requesting of me. 
I hear ya & I SEE you clearly, here. YOU are still lovable & acceptable to me, especially in those moments when you don't feel loving. That's when Real Love counts!  Approve

Another is, my brothers and their families and my mom are my family because I am a single woman without any children of my own. 
Duly-noted, you're still lovable, here. I accept you for WHO you are, not by your abilities. Do you get that? It's a ready supply available to you, freely. Smile

While it can be challenging to be with them at times, they are the only family I have so I do not want to isolate myself from them because of problem. 
I hear ya, YOU have that choice Thumbs Up

I want to make it work.  Families are important parts of our lives and an established way to connect to people. 
I hear ya. No one is making you detach from them at all. It only makes sense that you would "feel" this way. You are NOT ALONE, here. Many believe the same, too. Real Love is the missing ingredient here and you're the one who can introduce the principles to them by your changed perspective & understanding of their behaviors as well as your own, too. Are you willing to gift it to them?

Any suggestions on how I can see and love my nephew but also get in my adult time and relaxation?
Sure, GET LOVED b4 interacting with him. FEEL LOVED as you engage with him. MAKE A REAL LOVE CALL as soon as you 'leave a level of peacefulness' and enjoy the experience!with him!.
When I watched children, we watched the On-line Seminar together and Believe me, they felt the Love-we talked about for hours after. I taught them how to say, "Oopsies, my bad-I did it"
and they still use that, today. Heck, I still do, too! Embarrassed

 I am finding that I am wanting to run from Andrew because I just don't have what he needs and wants. I SEE that clearly. You're still lovable & acceptable even when you run & are fearful of making mistakes. Can you accept that your mistakes teach you what to do differently? You ave a grand opportunity to do that, now  Star

 Running from a child in my opinion is not the answer.
It's a form of fear, an indication that your "need" for love is not being met. Happens to me ALL the time, too. Embarrassed

 I also car for others peoples children very part time as a nanny. 
^5, me too! I have found that gifting them with Love & acceptance makes our time together go smoothly. They adapt well to TRUTH-telling Thumbs Up

So on weeks I do that, I crave adult connections more so. 
I know what you mean, I felt like that, too. You get to make the Loving choices that allow you to remain peaceful, loving & happy.  Approve

Caring about YOU,
~ Robin ~

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You don’t feel loved by your family do you?  It’s why you are referring to it as supposedly going on vacation. It’s why you leave family gatherings feeling drained and angry. Their behavior towards you isn’t loving—I get it, and that has to be painful. They are just empty people and don't know how.  I also see that they are your family and you don’t want to rock the boat in any way. There is nothing wrong with wanting to go on vacation and have some rest, relaxation and time interacting with adults. What are you afraid of Sharron?  Seeing that and talking about it will bring some clarity.

 

Andrew attaches himself to you because you are the ONLY person who even pretends to listen to him.  He doesn’t feel loved either—certainly not by his parents. You do have options and choices here, although you may not like them.  One thing is for sure—you can’t give what you don’t have.  You need to decide what you have available to give to Andrew and give No More than that.  For example, tell your brother how much time you’re WILLING to spend with Andrew.  “I’ll give him my undivided attention from 10-12” (you come up with a number) and you and Susie (or whatever her name is) can do something else.  Then when you’re with Andrew, give him 100% of your attention.  Look him in the eye, touch him, listen to him and when the time is up, STOP. Tell him you have to go and rest and he has to find something else to do. And turn him back over to his parents.

 

If the price of going on vacation with your family is being Andrew’s babysitter for the week, is that a price you’re willing to pay?  I don’t know.  Only you know that.

 
Love and Light,
KarenH

Edited by rlpkaren - 08 Aug 2011 at 9:02am
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Karen and Robin,
Thanks for the email.  I just wrote a response but it got lost when I tried to send it.  Too tired to rewrite tonight but thanks.
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No, I do not feel loved by my family.  I wish I did but I don't.  Karen, you asked what am I afraid of.  I am afraid of being left alone.  While my family is not the "Brady Bunch"  They are still my family.  The only family I have.  Friends come and go but family is there forever.  You know that old saying, blood is thicker than water.  In the past I have done all kinds of things to get them to love and accept me.  Now there is a whole new generation of pain developing in my nieces and nephews.  It is a catch twenty two situation.  I desire to love them but I wear out.  Because not much is coming my way or at least I don't recognize it.  I am pretty suspicious and have little trust as a result of things that have happened.  I will probably choose to go on vacation with my family even though I am somewhat reluctant.  I need to be with them since it has only been a month since my dad passed away. It is better to grieve with them than to grieve alone. Robin, I think your message is harder for me to grasp.  I don't see how being drained by an 8 year old is a gift but maybe it is a gift because out of everyone in my family, he chooses me to want to be with.  I hate it that I am a kid magnet.  But then if it would change, I would think maybe I was being unloving and children no longer had the desire to be with me.     But I guess I can take my Real Love phone list with me and use it all as a learning experience for myself and hopefully for my family.  Thanks for the suggestions
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Hi Sharron,
 
If you and I are in the room together and you're thinking about YOU and I'm thinking about ME, then WE are both alone. This alone feeling that you fear has nothing to do with blood or water, it has to do with the lack of REAL LOVE in your life. Real Love is caring for another without any thought for what you can get for yourself. I'm pointing this out to you because what you're describing about family can really be said this way, I'd rather keep trading imitation love with people I know AS family then to take the leap of faith required to get the REAL LOVE from people that I don't know. I'm too afraid to ADMIT to myself that I really am ALREADY alone; SO I allow myself to believe that I'm NOT ALONE when I'm with people, MY FAMILY who don't know how to love me.
 
If you'd be able to admit truths like this then you'd stand a much greater chance at FEELING LOVED. 
 
I'm NOT telling you that you should or should not see you're family. I AM saying that you'd feel more loved if you could get at the truth and STOP making excuses, STOP defending your actions.
And I'm smiling at you as I say ALL of this in BOLD RED. LOL
 
Honey, Karen has given you EXCELLENT feedback and LOVE and you pass it right by and go straight to defense. THIS is what is keeping you from feeling loved. Karen said:
 

Andrew attaches himself to you because you are the ONLY person who even pretends to listen to him.  He doesn’t feel loved either —certainly not by his parents. You do have options and choices here, although you may not like them.  One thing is for sure—you can’t give what you don’t have.  You need to decide what you have available to give to Andrew and give No More than that.  For example, tell your brother how much time you’re WILLING to spend with Andrew.  “I’ll give him my undivided attention from 10-12” (you come up with a number) and you and Susie (or whatever her name is) can do something else.  Then when you’re with Andrew, give him 100% of your attention.  Look him in the eye, touch him, listen to him and when the time is up, STOP. Tell him you have to go and rest and he has to find something else to do. And turn him back over to his parents.

 

If the price of going on vacation with your family is being Andrew’s babysitter for the week, is that a price you’re willing to pay?  I don’t know.  Only you know that.

 
Love and Light,
KarenH
Read it again honey....think about it line upon line. Find the wisdom in what she is saying, feel the acceptance and love that is being offered....it's just like milk...."It does a body good."
 
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Angela,
I just checked the forum and I see there is more on there.  I am beat.  Too old to watch a year and half child for 9.5 hour day.  I will be refreshed tomorrow to read and try to grasp.  Thanks and be in touch.
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Angela,
Yeah !  Internet is up.  

I did feel loved by Karen.  What did I not do to acknowledge that? Maybe I need to comment on the places I feel loved?  Not sure if that is "trading" or not.   It was the love I felt that pushed me on to develp my question a little deeper.  I am sorry if I did not do that the right way.  I will try better the next time.  Thanks for you input.  Much to think about.  
Love,
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Hi Sharron,
 
Glad you're connected.
 
Acknowleding when or that you feel loved is for you. There's no test. When I comment on how I feel I'm actually expressing either gratitude or ingratitude, love or fear, whatever and whichever I express seems to multiply. So when I feel loved, I tend to talk about that because it helps me to feel more loved. And for you, now, because you've felt so little unconditional love, I'm commenting on your lack of expression in order to help you FEEL more of what you've been missing.
 
Questions aren't bad. You need to gather information but it's been your habit to say, but so often that I'm pointing to another direction that is available for you.
 
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Angela,
Okedoke, that sound good.  Catch ya later.
Sharron
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