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    Posted: 22 Mar 2011 at 3:19pm
Thanks Angela, that opens my eyes a little,
 
**Sweet, that's all you need.
 
sometimes I am not sure what the line is between saying the truth and just over flowing with the details.
 
**You and me both. It gets easier.

My to do list looks something like this... In the last week I ran a red light and had my picture taken, I have to pay the ticket. Two days latter I got pulled over for having expired tags, I gracefully accepted the ticket, then I went to get new tags and was told that I had to pay 100$ fine for being late. Ok, at this point I am pissed and feeling like a victim .
 
**Can you go a little further and say "why" you felt like victim and "why" you got a little pissed off?
 
A hard lesson in learning to be responsible.
 
**Don't hit me over the head, okay? Ermm But, "why" was it a HARD lesson and not just A lesson? Answering these "why's" can help you to SEE what you're feeling underneath; can help you see and "poof away" the junk that's really causing you to feel bad.
 
2. My house is a MESS: dishes, laundry, sweeping, vacuuming, making the bed, cleaning the bathroom. 3. I have to reapply for food-stamps: paper work. 4. I also have to apply for scholarships, an essay, letter of recommendations, a little more paper work. 5. I told my teacher I would write a paper on my time in phoenix. 6. A few more miscellaneous things, study for math, spend time in the ceramics lab that kind of thing.
 
**And guess who gets to decide, when, where and how, waht order and IF any or all of this gets done??? Yep! Just YOU. Not your mom,  your friends or society, or the magazines or ANYONE. It's your call honey. I don't know about you but sometimes when I feel like I "should" be doing something or begin to call myself lazy or irresponsible, it's usually because I'm feeling afraid of what someone else will think of me while I'm CHOOSING what I want to do. I'm killing THAT noise daily. LOL And I find that things get done.

Ok, Five is not a million, in fact it is not 10 LOL .
 
**Love it!!
 
I hear what your saying about watching t.v. I guess my fear is that I would get stuck there FOREVER, not real rational. 
 
**Not at all. When you're sitting and watching tv, sit, watch and enjoy. You're allowed.
 
I got to a place this morning were I am actually grateful for the things on my list.
 
**Pretty cool.
 
 I would say more but I think that might just be details.
 
**No problemo.....it can take a while to get out of that habit! Wink
 
Thanks, for your time, Love Osha
 
**Piece of cake honey, you're so easy to love!

p.s. I just did a lovely job on my dishes!
 
**Look at you! Clap I'm happy for you, that you feel happy; not praising you for your work.
 
Love to you,
Angela


Edited by RLP Angla Nin - 22 Mar 2011 at 3:21pm
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well I did not turn into super mom and get all my chores done, I watched t.v. reflected on my life and cried a little. I did pay my tickets and get my tags on, and a few other essentials.

 It is beautiful out, I am going to go sit in the sun, and possibly go for a walk.

Learning a little everyday, Love Osha 
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Hi Osha,
 
I hope your walk in the sun helped yesterday. The sun does wonders for my dark moods.
 
I was reading your posts and thinking about some things from the seminar and the PCSD book. Especially:  When you are in pain, you just can't care about anyone or anything else.
 
People are hurting you because they are in pain.  You are hurting yourself even more because you are in pain....and wracked with guilt. You have to eliminate unproductive guilt to be happy.  
 
Here are some excerpts from the PCSD book, pages 298-299:
 
"Guilt makes happiness impossible - whether we wallow in it or avoid it...Guilt is just resentment of ourselves, rather than others, so the elimination of guilt closely resembles the process of forgiveness......First we seek to understand why we made the mistake.
 
....it's up to you whether you're willing to let it all go and be happy instead of guilty.  Have to choose one, because you can't have both.
 
.....The more we understand why we make mistakes, the easier it is to forgive ourselves, which is the same thing as not feeling guilty.  Then, as a second step, if we load our table with Real Love, guilt - by comparison - looks kind of foolish, and we'll just brush it to the floor."
 
I can see guilt as the enemy of happiness. It's just like in RL when they say "Do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy?"  The same can be asked of guilt. So when you are beating yourself up because you aren't getting things done, perhaps try to remember that when you are in pain other stuff just doesn't matter at that moment - and that's why you're not waking up focused on dishes, laundry, schoolwork, etc.  Once you start feeling more loved those other tasks become a piece of cake.  Forgive yourself.  I have all kinds of crazy stuff that I'm forgiving myself for lately......some of which you and I talked about in Phoenix, the rest of which you have no clue! And it ain't dirty dishes!
 
Love you.......and hope you are feeling loved.
 
-Brenda
 
 


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My head is kind of spinning on this.  Now that Angela pointed it out, just saying I have a "million" things to do doesn't get to the heart of this.  It can also be a "psych out" in that it leaves you so overwhemled that you don't want to tackle anything (running).
 
I understand perfectly what you mean by a hard lesson in being responsible.  Some lessons are just more painful than others and in your case irresponsibility was expensive.  When money is a hard to come by, it certainly carries more weight than not cleaning your bathroom.  I've learned some very hard lessons in my life too, created by poor judgment.  Confused
 
I see a couple of other things that I'll ask you about.  Food stamps-lazy for a start.  Since food stamps help you put food in your and Zoe's mouth, what's at the root of not applying? Somehow my intuition says that laziness isn't what's driving this.  And I could be totally wrong and that's fine. 
 
The other thing has to do with scholarships and your statement about what you are doing in school.  Examine what's under that statement.  Again, I think there's more there.
 
Somebody here on the forum once said "How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time." The fact that you have a number of things to do that are challenging (and some just mundane) says that you tackle them the same way. One thing at a time. Do give me a call if you want to chat.
 
Love you,
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Post Options Post Options   Quote osha Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2011 at 1:54pm
Well most things got done, its nice to be in a clean home. Definitely took some time this week for personal growth. Back to school and a full schedule, Zoe comes home today..Yippee! Thanks for the love and support, if I did not answer questions directly I sure thought about them. I have also been talking on calls about what came up.

Lots of Love, Osha
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Thanks for being so honest, Osha!
I often go through the same process and feelings - fear, feelings of unworthiness.
Thanks for laying it all out here and being willing to talk about it.

I hear you and I love you!
Hugs and love to you :)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote osha Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jul 2011 at 3:25pm
Hi Inge, thanks for your response and the love. I wrote this awhile back in the spring, it is interesting to look back at it and see where I was and remember being loved there too.

My daughter is gone again and while I have some similar feelings coming up it has been much different--much easier-- this time.

 Love you, Osha
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Hi Lovely Lady,
I am also experiencing this 'empty Nest" thingy, too.
My Son went into the Air Force and will be away from our Island Home for 6 yrs.
He did come to visit me before he left to prepare me for the long separation.
That was a very loving thing on his part.

My daughter & Son-in-law are including me in more weekends with them.
More evidence of how Real Love healed our relationship.

I sometimes get emotional when I make reference to them regarding my Spiritual growth & Recovery because it was both of them that contributed to my learning & growing in Real Love.

I have known you & Zoe that long, too. Ever since I came into this Loving Community
She has been heard in the background while we processed over the phone, Video chats & Conf Calls. I feel the connection strongly cuz I refer to you both as One.

I feel you & I can definitely relate.
No one really prepared me for what Life would be like for me, after they have grown-up and moved out to experience Life & Love on their own.
I am encouraged to do the same, too.
To tell you the TRUTH, I still cry sometimes-I watched tear-jerkers to get it all out.
I share about the absence and am grateful it's not because they have expired. Embarrassed

I allow myself to "feel" my feelings and IF I want to see pics of him, I have his FB page & the many YouTube videos of him playing music. I feel vulnerable now because they were my body guards, people I introduced potential partners to. I can still hear my Son saying, " Run away, very fast & don't look back- You'll thank me later and don't say I didn't warn ya!" LOL... LOL
It helps to know I'm not alone. Zoe will come home soon and you will have many moments of loving interaction with her while you're Loving&Teaching her.  I have alot of good memories of my time with my Son. My daughter is the One who needs to feel loved & accepted now.
This is my time to be with her in ways I wasn't able to before. She is still reading the Real Love in Marriage Book.
I would be doing them a great disservice if I made helping other couples more important than offering them the Loving Solutions they need.
Nice to process with you, Sistah.
It helped me to have the courage to post this in the Forum so I can be SEEN, accepted & loved.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote osha Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Aug 2011 at 11:23pm
Hi Robin, Good to see you! I am sending you a big hug!

Glad your here, Sistah.

Love Osha
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Hi Osha,
I felt that all the way across the Pacific Ocean HeartYing YangCoolThumbs Up
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