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bren
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Topic: Marshmallow MomPosted: 11 Jan 2011 at 2:51pm |
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I saw a news story today about a new book called "Tiger Mom", written by a parent with some very austere views on parenting. 2-3 hours of practice on musical instruments daily, no play dates, no sleepovers, full focus on academics and arts. Haven't seen the book - so no clue what allowances, if any, for socialization outside of the family unit. I'm thinking this author's children will grow up and rule the world if they don't murder her in her sleep first.
Well I am the opposite of Tiger Mom. I am Marshmallow Mom. The embarrassing truth is that my son is 9 yrs old and even little things like tying his own shoes creates a lot of drama. Not that he doesn't know how, but I have done so many things for him that now nothing "feels right" unless I do it for him. I've taught him to be reliant and helpless. I've let him get away with not cleaning his room, putting away his things......when I get sick of the mess, I clean it up myself. I've been an idiot. I have been robbing him of happiness all his life in different ways.
Now that I am stepping back and leaving him to do things for himself, the withdrawal is tough on him......ok, on us. And I keep screwing up. I'd make a terrible police officer.
I just read a quote from a psychologist who says that by protecting a child from frustration, we create children who grow up unable to handle frustration - and end up becoming destructive, or self destructive. That describes me as a parent, and how I was raised. My son - who on the surface appears to be a happy boy around others, is often sad or angry. I see him developing into the depressed, anxious person that I became as a teenager and still am. So now that I'm learning more about being loving and teaching responsibility, I feel like I'm trying to stop a train in motion.
There is no chance of me turning into Tiger Mom, but this Marshmallow thing has been disastrous. I feel drained.
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rlpkaren
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Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 11:10pm |
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I bet you do (feel drained). You can't turn an ocean liner around on a dime. And you can't change the dynamic between you and your son over night either. Yes, you have been an idiot. You did what you were taught and you were also taught by an idiot. And she was probably taught by another idiot. You, your mother, her mother (and the mothers before) didn't mean to be idiots. It's just the nature of doing what you know (the same as it is for everybody else). We're all stupid about many things. You don't have to be a police officer or Tiger Mom. You just have to continue to do your best to get loved yourself and then love and teach your son, one day, one lesson, at a time.
I know you have the parenting book. Read it until you can recite it by heart. Help him to feel loved, help him to learn to be loving, and teach him to be responsible so he can be happy. He's only 9, not 29. There's time to stop the train, time to turn the ocean liner. Don't lose hope.
Love you,
Karen Edited by rlpkaren - 14 Jan 2011 at 10:28am |
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Posted: 12 Jan 2011 at 2:34pm |
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Thanks Karen.......and no I won't lose hope.
Need to dive into the RL Parenting book now.
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RLP Angla Nin
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Posted: 14 Jan 2011 at 1:23am |
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Girrrrrl..... I cannot tell you how much I can relate to what you're saying! No kidding. And you're probably more right than it seems when you said, "If they don't murder her in her sleep first." It happens and it happens for just that reason.Now about your son, hey, NINE....wow....how fortunate for you BOTH that you're getting this now. I never called myself, Marshmallow Mom but it's a title that would have fit me too. It was such a sad thing to look back and see how I had robbed my children of learning by doing everything for them and take it from me, please, when I say that you're 100% correct when you say that you can see him developing into the depressed, anxious person that you were!! It could have happened easily, but not now! And that surface happy crap is for the birds, isn't it?? Ewww....yuck, yuck!
And hey, you have robbed him of happiness but now you're giving it back....and I robbed mine and now I'm giving it back....
And yes you are trying to stop a train in motion, but I tell you this, you'll have a much better shot at doing that than the person who never realizes that they even NEED to. And the good news is that it will stop and you WILL turn things around. LOVE does that. It works that way. It just works.
You hang tough my drained friend, you're not alone in this. We're here to help you as much as you need and want.
My hat is off to you. You're doing a fantastic job and I'm not just saying this. You really are. Look at Tiger Mom....what are the chances that she'll ever realize that her train is even on the wrong track.....oh well, that's just how it goes, isn't it?
Love ya,
Angela Edited by RLP Angla Nin - 14 Jan 2011 at 1:25am |
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bren
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Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 6:23pm |
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Angela, thanks for the encouragement. I am glad I am finally starting to grasp at what real love really is......it is a rewarding journey but it is not an easy one.
I have to "toughen up" a bit and be far more self-disciplined in order to teach my son responsibility. But I know that he can handle way more than I have ever asked of him.
The other night he wanted to make something in the kitchen - he wanted to "invent" something out of chocolate morsels. That would normally strike terror in my heart because I have always felt that I am the one who has to clean up in the end of his "inventing". I have always been territorial about the kitchen (as in CONTROLLING) for mainly that reason. But this time I told him that he could go ahead and do it himself as long as he understood it was his responsibility to clean up afterwards.
Well.....he made a pretty big chocolate mess in the kitchen......measuring cups, spoons, wax paper, melted chocolate everywhere. And then.........he walked away without cleaning up. So without getting angry, I just reminded him that he agreed to clean up after himself. Seeing that I was not angry with him, but that my tone was firm, he replied "Oh, no! The woman is getting some self-esteem!" and he returned and cleaned up the kitchen. I didn't even have to say it twice! That is a first.
He didn't do a perfect job of cleaning......but I kept my mouth shut and just thanked him for keeping his promise. Normally I defeat him by correcting everything he does making him less likely to even try to do things himself.
We have other battles, way bigger ones, but this was a nice starting point for us.
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Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 11:37pm |
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Hi Bren! I haven't been on this forum in several years actually so I apologize if I am a bit rusty!
First of all, what a great truth telling that was! You did a great job of being honest, pointing out your flaws, and NOT beating yourself up! I really believe that is so important for change, especially the "not beating yourself up part". Self-destructive attitudes never lead to productivity. With all that being said, I too can relate with you and your struggles in parenting. My little one is only 2 at this stage, but he is just starting to get to the point where he is forming bad habits that should be, and COULD be broken. Furthermore, I happened to have had a "Marshmellow Mom" myself growing up, and I can attest to the struggles that brought me in my latter years. I wanted to point out some of the reasons that you might be a Marshmellow mom for you to ponder. I think for many of us (including me)that it comes back to being empty and still beleiving that we are responsible for others feelings. When our children are angry, we often feel guilty like we are bad parents. We are trying to "earn" our children's love and/or "make ourselves my lovable" by being a "better parent" (which we naturally measure by how happy our children are). Lets face it, it stinks to see those sweet little faces in tears and sometimes we wish we really could give them everything they wanted! However, as you already know, spoiling our children isn't loving. It is our job to prepare them for the 'real world' and the real world is a school of hard knocks. I did want to recommend to you to read the Real Love in Parenting book if you haven't already, and I also really love Love and Logic. I think those two books together opened a whole new world up for me that I am actually excited about correcting my children because the gift of knowledge that they will get from it is something that will help them their whole lives! Good luck to you in your journey!
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Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 2:47pm |
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Dear Bren,
When I read, He didn't do a perfect job of cleaning......but I kept my mouth shut and just thanked him for keeping his promise. I got goose bumps. No kidding.
You're obviously learning that it's not about the CHOCOLATE or the MESS it's about, loving and teaching....love and teach. What's more important, having a clean kitchen or having a child that feels loved? Wow. What an excellent example of the latter. It's very important and yes there are going to be other battles, bigger ones, for sure but the principle remains the same. Love and teach. I'm tickled for both of you! It's not a nice starting point, it's a GREAT starting point.
Awesome!
Love to you,
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Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 5:06pm |
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You hit the nail on the head, Gina. Besides growing up with the example of parents who were often permissive, I have also been motivated by guilt.....feeling that I brought my son into the world under some sad circumstances and had made bad choices, and that I want to smooth everything over and make it feel better for him. Lots of times this has translated into rewarding him for whining, or not following through with consequences and overindulging him.
And what you said is so true, it doesn't prepare them for the "school of hard knocks". I don't want my son to be as unprepared as I was.
I am reading the parenting book. Never heard of "Love and Logic" - I'll have to look into that one. Sounds like you have gotten a good head start over many of us.
Wishing you love on your journey as well!
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Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 5:28pm |
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And Angela, you are so right - It is the Love that matters. Every time I have put anything else before that, I have taken a step backwards.
Last Thursday I was at my wit's end - my son had lost his spelling list, couldn't find his math homework either. I recognized that the consequences would naturally be that the next day he would lose recess at school, and it would effect his grades so there was no need for me to add to that. But in trying to help him find his spelling list, I don't know how many comments I made as I went along......."If you would have done this....You should have done that......why, why, why". He was already upset with himself and I made him feel worse. The evening went downhill from there.
It's those seemingly little remarks that build up and poison our relationship. I had been failing to even notice all the damage I have done. What a huge difference today was - I reminded my son that even though it was a "snow day", he still had to complete at least one spelling assignment and do some reading for his reading log. No anger or irritation, just the facts.....and we set a time to get started. Not only did he start, but he decided to do all of his assignments for the week since he had the day off.............AND he went out and shoveled the snow off the driveway without being asked.
Pass the kleenex.......I think I'm going to cry!
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Posted: 07 Feb 2011 at 9:33pm |
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I've been the worse mom at following through with a plan for my kids chore rountine and other things, they inconsistency hasn't helped them to be any more happy then your son I'm sure. I have been working hard at being more consistent and holding on, praying and having faith in things coming together...
my 8, 10, 11 year old have been throwing the worse fits imaginable. I have done this to them, as it's their habit. I see where they'd do it and I'd give in what they want. My 10 year old is impulsive and takes what she wants without considering others. Has stolen 5 dollars from a classmate, it's difficult to change this. I have hope though, my 5 year old I'm teaching her now, she's a lot more easy to deal with and encourge to stop the fit when she gets to starting.
We all have done it, I admit I had a lousy teacher/mother, but I can't keep blaming things on her. My relationships suck and I've decided the only important ones are with my kids, so we hang in there.. read the parenting book with your son, I've done it a few times and it's amazing how they get it.
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