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    Posted: 29 Oct 2008 at 3:22am
I'm wondering if I'm even doing this RL thing right.  If I'm telling the truth about myself and accepting my husband when he "inconveniences" me and he seems to be getting angrier, am I doing it right?  That is to say, is it normal for a spouse to lash out more than usual if I'm following Real Love principles correctly?  
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I would reply that sometimes my husband does get a bit more angry when he sees that he is not getting the "usual" reaction out of me; at first anyway, but then he calms down and he is less apt to attack or keep the argument going; especially if I just keep quiet and tell him whatever I am responsible for and then leave it alone.
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Hi Angela,
 
Great Question!!!
 
Real Love is NOT a technique-so relieve yourself from that false belief.
Real Love works when you are able to be Unconditionally loving.
 
Your first step would be to Tell your TRUTH to those of us who are already capable of giving you the necessary LOVE you need, so you can be unconditionally loving toward your husband. We will also help you with the dialogue for your first truth-telling session with him.
 
His anger is NOT about you, but about the emptiness of a life-time of NOT receiving the necessary Love he's needed. Does this make sense to you?
 
Your need for Love has been unmet, too. SO when you attempt to be loving & tell your truth to him, he's only going to react in the ONLY way he knows how. You're NOT able to meet his need to feel loved yet.
 
Time spent with us will give you the necessary supply of Real Love that needs to be gathered up, so your supply doesn't deplete with every interaction.
 
Keep telling your truth with us-Do you need phone numbers & e-mails?
I'll be glad to equip you with some in your part of the US. You may also call me for those nights when you just can't get some sleep because of this, ok?
 
Loving you while you're building your supply,
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Edited by RoknRob121 - 31 Oct 2008 at 5:37pm
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Hi Robin,

Thanks for your response.  Like many I've heard and read: I've wrapped my mind around the concept, but my heart is just not following.  I can't get it emotionally.  I'm trying to, but I just can't grasp that my husband is drowning when he yells at me or neglects me.  I want to believe that it's something he's intentionally doing and can control.  Yet, I know I can't help it when I'm unloving.  So hypocritical of me!  I would love LOVE some phone numbers and emails near me, thank you! 

P.S.  Is it common to fear making calls?  For some reason, I only feel safe emailing right now.
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Hi Angie,

***I have had similar experience with my spouse, and she with me.

I'm wondering if I'm even doing this RL thing right. If I'm telling the truth about myself and accepting my husband when he "inconveniences" me and he seems to be getting angrier, am I doing it right? That is to say, is it normal for a spouse to lash out more than usual if I'm following Real Love principles correctly?

***Yes, you are most likely doing it right and doing it the best you can. It has been my experience that a spouse/significant other lashes out or uses anger (or other getting/protecting behaviors) more as we change our behavior. One usually has learned how to behave to get the other person to "be" the way they need for their own comfort/imitation love. When we change, they may feel a loss of control [power is often the imitation love they are seeking] and they tend to feel more afraid. Our new behavior is rocking their world. Even when we are being more loving as we learn this, they may be confused and exercise their G&P behaviors more. Like when a child says something to be heard and no one responds the way they want, so they yell louder.

I'm trying to, but I just can't grasp that my husband is drowning when he yells at me or neglects me. I want to believe that it's something he's intentionally doing and can control.

***This is what we've come to believe out of our own fear and emptiness we've had a lifetime of experiencing. Greg says that when we are empty and afraid, we have a blindness--when we are afraid, we can only see what the other person may do TO US; when we are empty, we can only see what the other person should do FOR US. The key is to achieve the feeling of acceptance and being unconditionally loved. Then we will lose the fear and emptiness, and like magic, we will see the truth more clearly, and just how much our spouse really needs to just be loved and accepted. The feelings and actions will automatically be more of love, when we are feeling loved. And then our partners will be able to sense our genuine care for them and relax their G&P Behaviors. This takes time, though.

Is it common to fear making calls? For some reason, I only feel safe emailing right now.

*** Oh, yes!! Email is good for now, but I encourage you to take the leap. Phone calls are better to get loved; and groups meetings or in person meetings are even better, to feel the love!

Hope this helps,
with love, Jay
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Thanks for your question.  My partner has suddenly started cutting me off and not communicating.  I have been doing Real Love for 2mths, inadequately I might add, and he can't get the same rise out of me, so he found another way.  Thanks to you I recognise that now. 
 
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I really liked to remember the drowning metaphor.

In our emptiness and/or fear, we feel pain of not being loved and do whatever to protect or get. When our partner is getting or protecting, its because of how they feel about themselves, not really us. We can see that a little when we have a life preserver of RL thrown out to us and accept it, and begin to feel lifted up.   But when we're "on the boat" or the "solid land" of knowing we're loved and lovable, we can see ourselves and others even more clearly with love and compassion. Until then, we keep gulping water with each wave and "losing it" in a panic. Not easy to love and make the best choices in that state. The behaviors of others are not personal/about us, like we have learned growing up. They are still just drowning.

Again, I'd say make some calls or get in a group or both. Progress will be much better with more immersion in RL principles and connecting with others in terms of RL. We need to tell the truth about ourselves to others to feel loved and accepted. Reading and meditation, though helpful, didn't seem to heal that feeling of not being loved and accepted for me. And it does take some time and repetition to fill the well of emptiness and fear we've developed in our whole lifetime.

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Try one of the conference calls.  You can just listen in if you want to see how they work.
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Hi Angela,
 
You're making great progress, feel good about that!
You're making the necessary choices to become more Loving & Happier, even though your husband is not seeing the results yet.
 
 Like many I've heard and read: I've wrapped my mind around the concept, but my heart is just not following.  I can't get it emotionally. 
 
Don't fret about that right now, I guess the mistake we commonly make is that Real Love is a "quick fix" to your long-standing problem and that is NOT true.
 
In order for you to become more Loving & Happy, your need for love needs to be met.
That can be met ONLY as you Tell the TRUTH about your uses of Getting & Protecting Behaviors. Does that help?  Feeling loved by those of us who are capable of giving you this kind of LOVE will bring it home to the emotional core of you. Can you grasp this concept, better?
 
I'm trying to, but I just can't grasp that my husband is drowning when he yells at me or neglects me. 
 
I understand this confusion. You can't do Real Love IF the motivation is to change or control your partner. This Real Love has to come from your desire to experience it for yourself, first. Once you've had a feel for the healing that you being loved brings, the gradual changes in you may just get his attention and he'll feel less likely to defend & protect himself with his own Getting & Protecting behaviors. Right now, both of you are in "pain" from a lifetime of being loved "conditionally" it's a temporary condition, that will take time to heal.  Your phone numbers & e-mails are on it's way to you. There's also the Conference calls like Dnhnd suggested. They are FREE so utilize them to get to know more of us who are practicing Real Love, too.
 
 I want to believe that it's something he's intentionally doing and can control. 
 
ok, well that's one TRUTH, this reveals your need to feel like a victim. In other words, you are keeping yourself stuck because of this false belief. this is not bad, it's just blocking your way to progressing in this process. Without even your husband involved, this is one thing you are doing that is causing your unhappiness right now. And guess what, we've all done it too. So you're NOT alone there. You are loved & accepted even though you are doing this. Can you accept this and move on from here?
 
 Yet, I know I can't help it when I'm unloving.  So hypocritical of me! 
 
This is your second TRUTH, you're doing great here!
and you know what? you're still loved & accepted even when you are unloving towards him. You're not required to know how to Love him, until your need for love is met.
that's your first priority. We don't just become unconditionally loving because we "will it" to be so. We tell the TRUTH about what we are doing that is contributing to our own unhappiness, which is what he is reacting to. Are you getting it yet?
He's NOT even this equation, yet. We are filling your need for Love here.
 
 I would love LOVE some phone numbers and emails near me, thank you! 
 
You can have mine 808-268-3339 and I will PM more to you now.

 P.S.  Is it common to fear making calls?  For some reason, I only feel safe emailing right now.

Yes it is, but until you make a conscious decision to do "something different" you will only experience the same discomfort that you're experiencing now. There really is HUGE relief when you can be honest about these behaviors of yours, receive the instant Love & acceptance you need right then, and then be able to say to your husband," You know, I haven't really been loving toward you and I'm not blaming you here, I'm accepting responsibility for the things that I am doing. I am learning how to be more loving so that I can at least be happy in my own skin. Our relationship is worth that kind of investment"
Then look at him, lovingly and not care about his reaction, Just a genuine concern for his Happiness. < It can be done, is being done and will continue with time & practice, ok?>
 
 
Lotsa Love is being poured out on you,
 
~ Robin ~
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Edited by RoknRob121 - 31 Oct 2008 at 4:42pm
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Post Options Post Options   Quote angeleyes2blue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 1:31am
Thanks Robin. 

We don't just become unconditionally loving because we "will it" to be so.

That sums it all up for me, I think.  I definitely pull the victim card because it's so easy for me to do so (AND I get sympathy from family and friends and secretly hope that my husband would give me the same), then I tell myself that I'm being loving and don't deserve being treated the way I am BECAUSE I'm being loving (or what I think is loving).  Clearly that's not being loving because I'm expecting an emotional response from my husband.  RL is definitely in my head...just not in my heart yet.  I called in to a conference call today and just listened.  Next time I plan to talk. 
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