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    Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 4:34am
Dear Wise Men and Women,

I am interested in your honest feedback on my current situation.

Recently I have come to the honest realization that the "getting and protecting" behaviors in my current relationship have been taken to a toxic dynamic. I willingly lie excessively to please my partner and his insecurities drive him anger and controlling me. I cannot praise, pleasure, or create enough safety with him to satiate his ever-thirsty addiction to imitation love. When I finally "hit rock bottom" and realized that there was no real love in our relationship and tried to explain it to my partner his initial reaction, as it often is, was anger and blame. My intuition and past experience about real love has been verified by Dr. Baer since I have been reading and listening to the tapes and DVDs. In the last week, my partner has taken accountability for his unloving actions, as have I, and has sworn to discontinue them if we chose to continue on in a relationship together. One of my major concerns is that because he has never really loved before (two failed marriages), because we are both extremely addicted to these behaviors, that the road to "change" and really loving each other will be long and hard. I have never been willing to use getting and protecting behaviors to the extent that I have with him.  We have been together for about a year and he considers the relationship to be more of a marriage, he is 15yrs older than me. My only limited experience with "real love" was in my previous relationship of 4 years. When I compare my current relationship to my previous relationship I feel like there was real love. I often find myself thinking and daydreaming about the comfort of the moments of what I remember to be real love experienced by my previous boyfriend. Of course there were getting and protecting behaviors in that relationship too, but they did not seem as habitual and detrimental as my current relationship. I find myself asking why did I ever think the grass was greener?!?! I don't know if I am projecting onto my previous relationship because I am currently unhappy or if I was experiencing real love. I am unclear if I should stay in my current relationship because my partner is willing to do the work find real love, to be single for awhile because I need to learn more about real love, or eventually re-enter my previous relationship because it is the closest experience that I have had to consistent real love and I miss is dearly as I have been "starving" for awhile.

I appreciate the advice and honesty.

Namaste.
Snowrider86
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I am in a similar situation, only I am married, have been for almost 4 years, and have a child with him. It sounds like youre trying really hard to change your situation and I think youre going about it in a good way. Open and honest communication is always the answer.
I know that for me, sometimes I do dwell on past relationships and think about how it was better than what I have now, but then I have to remind myself that those relationships ended for a reason, and while I miss certain aspect of it there was a lot I learned about myself and the world through that experience. And I can either keep thinking about what I lost, or I can take the lessons I learned and apply them to the situation I am in now. Dwelling on the past only creates an unrealistic feeling of longing and loneliness for me, and makes it harder for me to see the things my husband IS doing right, and thats not fair to him.
From what you wrote it sounds like this may be the same sort of situation you find yourself in right now. If you really love this guy, and want it to work out, I think the best and most fair thing you can do for him, and for yourself, is to focus your efforts on your current relationship. When you think of real love you have received in the past allow yourself to remember the happiness you had then, and think of what YOU were doing that contributed to that feeling. You may find that those experiences in fact were NOT real love, in which case dwelling on it will only leave you feeling empty and unloved. You may find that it was your partner showing YOU real love inspite of what you were doing, in which case comparing your current partner to that other person is an unfair comparison, and again will only lead to further unpleasant feelings toward your current partner. You may find that it was because you ALLOWED your partner to know the truth about you, therefore freeing him to be ABLE to show you real love. Really try to analyze why those are such pleasant memories for you, then take what you learn from it and apply it to your current relationship.
 
It also sounds to me like you have been hurt a lot by this guy, that on many occasions you have sought love from him and he has denied it, or tried to drag you down with him because of how lonely and afraid HE is feeling. And because of this you resort to lying to try to protect yourself. I think the best way to find out if this guy is even capapble of real love is to start being more truthful with him about yourself, give him a chance to be loving with you. The lying denies him the opportunity to love you like you need him to. He may not be as unloving as you might think :) he just may not be getting the opportunities to BE loving.
 
If Im totally off the mark, please disregard what I said. But I know how you feel and know its not fun. I hope this has been helpful and that things get better soon :)
 
With love,
Jacquie
 
 
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Hello Snowrider. No, what you were experiencing with the previous boyfriend wasn't Real Love. I'd find that very hard to believe, because if it was Real Love, you'd still be there. My suspicion is that if you leave the current relation to go back to the previous boyfriend (if that's even possible), you'll soon remember why you left in the first place. The grass looks greener, not is greener. 
Simply deciding or swearing that you'll stop using Getting and Protecting behaviors when you are empty is impossible. You can only control what you do. Having a desire to change is a first step only. After that comes the work of getting Real Love into your life. That happens by finding people who are already practicing these principles and using them daily. Tell the truth about You to those people. If your partner wants to do that, that's great. But it's his journey to walk. I'd suggest reading the books (of which there are many), getting on free conference calls, getting to know people, making calls one on one, and learning what it feels like to be loved by someone who wants nothing from you. 
 
Since you're not married to this person, I'm not telling you to stay, AND I'm not telling you to leave. It is far more difficult to learn to become loving if you are in a relationship that is totally unloving. However, if both parties want to work on it, it's certainly do-able.
 
Love to you.
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Hi Jacquie. You're answer was pretty well-balanced. Clap  Kudos to you for keeping the focus on what your husband does right. Remember that most relationships that aren't fueled by Real Love are people trading Imitation. Sure, it feels pretty good when the trade is equal and damn painful when it goes south. Do we, on occasion, give some Real Love to a partner. Probably. But giving to get is much more common.
Remembering past relationships is like remembering childbirth. We sure do forget the pain after the passage of time. We seem to remember the good more readily than reality. That's why Snowrider keeps dreaming about the lost boyfriend as if he's the last life raft on the Titanic. Real Love is difficult work and needs to happen in the present. The past is just information, not a place to dwell.
 
Love & Light,
KarenH


Edited by rlpkaren - 16 Sep 2012 at 2:17pm
Learn from your mistakes and recognize that everything in life can be used as a lesson once you are willing to be teachable.
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