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rlpkaren
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Topic: How does real love deal with money?Posted: 03 Jul 2012 at 7:24am |
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The conference call list is here on the website. From the home page look at the different drop down menus and you'll find it. It's up to you to see if any of the calls will work for you based on the time differences. There is also a UK call that might work better. I know there are people in China teaching Real Love and perhaps Greg can help you with that. Good luck.
Love and blessings, KarenH
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catt
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Posted: 03 Jul 2012 at 9:45am |
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of this, I didn't email them because I was afraid - of the resulting
things such as contacting another possible person on the phone and even
probably having to pay for their services."
*** Me too. It's been a slow process in my own case... and the archived media on RealLove.com has been a tremendous mentor, both because it is impartial and that it's accessible (the cost of internet access and available 24/7). I've viewed and listened to a large number of the coaching, video chat and radio shows, and I have several "favorites" that I go back and re-experience as a reminder when feelings of confusion return about something that I know I've heard the answer to before but the specific details about it just haven't quite stuck yet. The funny thing is that while it's true that it's "Always about Real Love", as is stated so frequently, human programming is achieved through storytelling... so the fact that the archive has a massive index of so many stories told from a vast number of different angles is immensely useful - because somewhere in it there is very likely an angle that is useful for me see it from in any given moment. "To tell the truth, I am a shy guy - so shy that everyone can see that at first sight of me. I am realizing that is because I am AFRAID that they would not accept me. So I don't speak much in front of strangers. Things become even worse each time people say in my face that I am too shy and have some problem with my personality. I am infuriated inside each time I heard that. So I become even shier as a result. I hope things would become different when I feel more accepted." *** Again... me too. I am also a "shy" guy... at least on the outside. Inside is a different story... I've had a lot of anger and frustration most of my life. Hearing Dr.Baer say that expressing anger is something that people need to be able to do in front of others and be accepted during it has been a very strange thing for me to hear, because I somehow learned early on in life that it is NOT okay to be angry... and so my anger and frustration all went "under ground" and my external behavior became controlling in other ways... being shy, not listening and running, etc. A secondary effect of my "anger education" which taught me that anger is not okay... is that I am instinctively programmed to react in a specific way when others get angry, particularly when they get angry at me... my behavior involuntarily goes into submission mode, making me absolutely useless in terms of dealing with any such situation with real love. Time and patience... as you said... it takes time and patience for things to change. I'm working on that... but I'm also still hungry for any sort of simple method that could help me at least interrupt this instinct that feels so involuntary. I know it's possible, because the "drowning" metaphor... which is only a simple mental tool really... has helped me see anger a whole lot differently just by hearing the drowning story described. That one has helped in a more general sense, though... I'm still looking for something that helps in specific situations... in the specific moments that someone is being angry around or to me... because in those more extreme situations my behavior still becomes submissive like an involuntary reaction... and I've yet to find a way to change that. The thing is, not just any mental tool works... and I don't know exactly why the drowning one has worked so well in the general sense for me personally... that's the mystery I'm exploring and am hungry for more of. |
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rlpkaren
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Posted: 03 Jul 2012 at 11:35am |
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Most of us sit in a dark room, lost and afraid, within reach of a light switch we cannot see. ~ Greg Baer
Faith is what is lacking and what is needed. Love, KarenH
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Posted: 03 Jul 2012 at 10:29pm |
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Hi, you know what! Yesterday, I had a great mood, which was definitely due to the truths that I told here about myself. I know some may not accept me, but some will. And at least, I could finally lay what I am on the table. This will not only enable others to see and accept me, but also allow myself to see what my thoughts really are. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Cory.
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Posted: 03 Jul 2012 at 10:37pm |
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Yesterday, the colleagues in my office played a joke on me. I became angry. Nothing bad happened because I always choose to be silent whenever I am angry.
When they do that, I always feel that they are judging me. So I realized that I was angry because I was afraid that people would judge me and criticize me. Even when I am not angry with the joke, I don't know how to respond. I guess I am afraid that I would make things worse and become the target of everyone. I hope I have told the truth correctly. Edited by youmustbelieve - 03 Jul 2012 at 10:37pm |
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Posted: 04 Jul 2012 at 12:34am |
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rlpkaren: "Most of us sit in a dark room, lost and afraid, within reach of a light switch we cannot see. ~ Greg Baer. Faith is what is lacking and what is needed."
youmustbelieve: "you know what! Yesterday, I had a great mood, which was definitely due to the truths that I told here about myself" *** Excellent. I know I, for one, am grateful to be able to witness self-truth. youmustbelieve: "I always choose to be silent whenever I am angry" "I hope I have told the truth correctly." *** In absence of the wisdom to do anything else, I've often practiced silence when I'm angry. Dr. Baer also says to "be quiet" when we're angry and can't figure out how to respond... so I think we're on the right track by doing this, my friend. |
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Posted: 04 Jul 2012 at 8:21am |
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Yesterday, the colleagues in my office played a joke on me. I became angry.
***I'm sorry, that sounds as though it was painful for you. You became angry to protect yourself. It feels better than fear or loneliness. Some jokes can be very cruel and jokes at the expense of another person just aren't nice. Nothing bad happened because I always choose to be silent whenever I am angry. ***There is nothing productive you can say while you're angry, so quiet is better. When they do that, I always feel that they are judging me. So I realized that I was angry because I was afraid that people would judge me and criticize me. ***You heard a very loud "I don't love you" message from your colleagues. It doesn't feel good to hear that. Even when I am not angry with the joke, I don't know how to respond. I guess I am afraid that I would make things worse and become the target of everyone. ***Sounds as though you feel helpless. That's not a good feeling either. As you tell the truth and begin to feel loved, you may find that you view things differently. Real Love can change everything and it will if you keep practicing and being honest here or with others who can love you. I hope I have told the truth correctly. ***Yes, I understood you clearly. Love, KarenH
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Posted: 06 Jul 2012 at 10:48am |
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Hi Catt. I've answered you as well as I am able.rlpkaren: "Most of us sit in a dark room, lost and afraid, within reach of a light switch we cannot see. ~ Greg Baer. Faith is what is lacking and what is needed."
**You are feeling "rebellious/angry/frustrated" because you're just plain angry. You didn't like what I said. That's okay with me . . . really. Your anger can't hurt me. Your anger and fear are killing you. It's what keeps you analyzing and analyzing Real Love and failing to do much to change anything. You lack faith that it will work, so there are lots of "yes, buts" and "maybe there could be" this or that when someone suggests ways for you to feel loved. Fear makes everybody blind and deaf. You are in the pool Cory. When someone extends a pole for you to grab you tell them "no, I want a vest". Until you take a leap of faith and just start practicing Real Love as it exists, nothing is going to change. Afraid or not you are still worthwhile. Angry or not you are still worthy of being loved. Caring about your happiness! Karen
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Posted: 06 Jul 2012 at 12:49pm |
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rlpkaren: "You
are feeling "rebellious/angry/frustrated" because you're just plain
angry."
*** You're right, and I admit that. When I hear that the suggested answer is to have "Faith", I get even more angry, because it feels ineffective to say such a thing (even if it is true) to someone who doesn't know how to access it ( ...like Greg says in one of his presentations of the drowning person story... that saying "Why don't you just swim?" to a drowning person is just plain ridiculous ). The principles of Real Love very carefully spell out how I can "fix" this situation... by working on telling self-truths to people who can hear them. I have begun that process. I am seeing progress with it... very small progress... unsatisfyingly small. It's been eight months so far and I have not yet found one "whole" person who I can do this with. I say "whole" because I have certainly found "moments" where I can do it... though those moments are infrequent and there is no consistent pattern that I can count on with them. This is not enough to build a true foundation to consistently grow on. In fact, I realized that I already had this for a long long time in my life without knowing or being able to describe it for what it is. Now that I know the details provided by the language of Real Love, I understand my circumstances much better, and I am, in many ways, MORE angry about it. "You didn't like what I said. That's okay with me . . . really. Your anger can't hurt me." *** Yes, you're right, I didn't like it. It's good that you know the difference between "you" and what was said. My anger is not directed at you... it is directed at the situation. I don't like what was said... for the reasons provided above. I don't have any judgment of you. You just are. "Your anger and fear are killing you." *** Agreed. "<fear is> what keeps you analyzing and analyzing Real Love and failing to do much to change anything." *** I agree that analysis for the sake of itself is ineffective... but if this is to suggest that analysis is an ineffective tool, I disagree with that. "You lack faith that it will work, so there are lots of "yes, buts" and "maybe there could be" this or that when someone suggests ways for you to feel loved." *** You're right. There is more to faith than this, though. Faith is a subjective concept. It is not true to say that I lack faith. The better question is to ask WHAT I have faith in. I absolutely do have faith... but it's more accurate to say that I have faith in things that aren't serving genuine happiness. The ability understand and tap into the faith that I DO have is a key step in accessing my subconscious trust. If a message is delivered to me through a channel I have been subconsciously programmed NOT to trust, the message is discarded involuntarily and automatically... and changing this situation is not done simply by suggestion alone (ie. "Have Faith"). Going through channels I already subconsciously trust is one way to get things through my programming (aka. deliver things through the terms of my existing faith). Another way would be to bypass my programming altogether (aka. shock therapy?). I seek to learn how to do either or both of these... or anything that achieves the equivalent result. This, to me is how to make the process of Real Love more effective... for myself and possibly for others as well. In another thread with "Dancer", I've talked about combining Real Love with Drama as a way to "feel" it more effectively. It's been brewing in me for a while... maybe shock therapy is too drastic, but Drama Therapy of some sort might work ;-) "Fear makes everybody blind and deaf." *** Agreed. "You are in the pool Cory." *** Agreed. "When someone extends a pole for you to grab you tell them "no, I want a vest". *** It is through Greg's drowning person metaphor that I learned that drowning people aren't capable of making choices... they are in survival/panic mode where reason and logic simply do not exist. When I'm drowning I don't know the difference between a pole and a vest... I am not making any decisions in drowning state... there is only automatic action... and only ONE ACTION - "GRAB ONTO ANYTHING I CAN AND SEE IF IT SAVES ME". "Until you take a leap of faith and just start practicing Real Love as it exists, nothing is going to change." *** I don't know how to do that more than I have been already. |
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