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    Posted: 04 Jun 2012 at 10:24am
Hello Wise people!

My daughter has been bullied lately at school by a bigger girl, and she keeps talking about it, even though the school year is finally past. This girl has both physically and verbally bullied both my girl and others at school, and has now been asked to not return for the upcoming school year because of too many complaints by parents. (this is a small charter school that teaches Garner's Multiple Intelligences, including interpersonnal and extrapersonnal communication)

I have been trying to teach my girl that this other child is just drowning, and  her actions are G/P behaviors. Any advise on how to teach your child to "see" other children who are trying to do them harm, and how to overcome it?

Thanks and love to you!

-Stacey



Edited by RLL Stacey - 04 Jun 2012 at 10:46am
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Hi Stacey.  I sent this one to Greg and he says he'll respond in a blog. Tongue  I'll be watching for it.
It's difficult for children (and adults) to stop Acting like a victim when they Are a victim.  Bullying is awful and scary (I remember it well).  And it's still true that it is always about Real Love and how loved your daughter feels. She really does need to know that not everybody will like her, no matter what she does. And even friends trade for imitation because that's the way of the world. It's crucial that she feel loved by you so she can see the difference between what is real and not real.
 
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Hi Stacey,
 
I am looking forward to reading this blog too when Greg posts it.  This is a tough situation because the bully needs love just as badly as the child being bullied.
 
I had a situation with my son and a friend last week.  This friend both bullies and is bullied by other children, even those smaller than him (this boy is the biggest kid in the entire school). My son is not being bullied by him but last week the boy got angry at my son and picked him up and threw him down on the ground.
 
I talked to both boys about what happened - apparently my son was bragging about being able to throw a ball further.  I floundered a bit...but I was able to talk about how people are at varying states of anger - and how it doesn't take much to trigger people sometimes.  I pointed out that our words have a lot of power - boasting is unloving, and physical violence is not acceptable.  I didn't ask them to apologize to each other.  They didn't say much - it was a quiet ride home.  They played again the next day, no issues since. 
 
But I will say I have fear now - feel like I need to constantly watch this kid. Not feeling like a victim...just vigilant.  There is violence and alcoholism in his home, anger has been building for a while. 


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Thanks Karen and Bren,

Yes, I talked to my daughter about how everyone needs real love, and that the bully probably hasn't had any,  which is why she is acting out. It's  sad too, because they actually WERE friends for a while, until  she didn't appreciate this girl  telling her what to do  and  who to be friends with, so she stood up to her. Then it pretty much went downhill from there, when  she stopped giving the other girl control over her. Physical grabbing, name calling, trying to isolate, the whole bit. There was even a  "talk-it-out" with Justice, her friend, and  the bully with the principal, but the bully of course denied it all.

All I can  do right now is to teach her to "see" that bullies are actually drowning and splashing for help, to have some compassion and loving-kindness towards those who are trying to control and manipulate her and others.

 


Edited by RLL Stacey - 07 Jun 2012 at 2:57pm
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Hello all!

I had  a nice phone conversation with Greg this morning, and tried to take some decent notes to relay to you, bear with me as I am completely awful at relaying information/paraphrasing, I'm sure his blog post will be much more eloquent:

#1- The most important thing we have to tell our kids is that we cannot solve this problem for them. There will always be unkind people around. They are unhappy. This goes for adults too. He suggested to constantly show examples of unkind/bullies that are around us, in the media, on television etc.

#2- Bullies give the children an opportunity to teach your child how to be loving. They also teach the limits of loving, and that sometimes we fail at being loving. And that it is ok.

#3- Teach your child that the bully is just as much pain from lack of love as the quiet kid in the  corner. Both children are suffering from not having Real Love but are only expressing it differently.

#4- Teach your child to say "I really care about you AND I am also going to be friends with ____" (This is when a bully is trying to control who your child will be friends with) and  that they can accept your child's friendship as a gift.

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Greg  also suggested  though for children to wear whistles which I think is genius, for when children are bullied on the playground or even in the classroom. Yes, it will inconvenience the teachers or aides (who he suggests can be bullies themselves),  but will also immediately give attention to what is going on instead of after the fact. I think this will also aleviate the option for a bully to deny any wrong-doing as there will be immediate witnesses to the event.

He also recommended that parents don't give up reporting/bringing attention to bullying to administrators. He hit this home to me by stating that you wouldn't let a child molester near a school, so there should  be the same "zero-tolerance" for bullies. It is all the same pain from lack of Real Love.

I hope this helps other families dealing with the epidemic  just as much as it is helping me,

love Stacey & Justice




Edited by RLL Stacey - 06 Jun 2012 at 7:49pm
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Here is something to share from Garvin:

Stacey,

This is one of the toughest challenges any parent can face. It's all good and fine to tell your child that happiness comes from within and is something they choose for themselves, independent of such outside factors as what other people think of them. But these concepts are pretty abstract for a child to fully grasp. 

Of course, the most important thing is for her to know that she can talk with you about all of this, especially her feelings of fear and embarrassment, and that you will hear her with no judgment and that, rather than trying to fix it for her, you will encourage her to work out ways she can deal with it on her own.

If you can help her see the bully more with compassion and less as a threat, it will help her. Perhaps you can suggest visualizing the bully as she might have been at three years old and see her crying in pain or loneliness, with no one caring. If she can connect with, and have compassion for, that little child, she may be able to extend that compassion to the older child who is threatening her. This would at least give her a framework of reference and might inspire Justice to consider how she could reach out to the bully in a positive way and become a source of love and connection for her--NOT primarily to avoid being the victim of her bullying (although that is a likely outcome)--but to sincerely offer the bully something she has not had--a caring friend.

Even if this particular bully does not come back to the school, learning this method of  shifting her energy away from personal victim-hood to compassionate connection when confronted by a bully will be a powerful lesson she can carry forward in her life, so you may choose to see this as an important learning opportunity for her that you have the privilege of facilitating.

I would also suggest going to www.challengeday.org/videos.php and watching (with her) the video clip "The Teen Files." You'll want to have a box of tissues nearby. There are some other great videos there, too, including "The Bully Solution." Challenge Day is a program for middle school and high school kids but, with your support, I think Justice should be able to get some useful insights from these videos.

I hope these suggestions help.

Love,
Garvin


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Stacey,
 
Thanks for sharing all this information from Greg and Garvin.  I will check out the links and make it a point to share some of it with my son as he will be entering middle school in the fall.
 
 
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Hi all!

Mary suggested on the phone conf. last night to have a picture of your child and you/your family for them to look at during school to remind them that they are loved. She did  this with her child when a teacher was being a bully.

She also said that even the smallest effort from your child to a bully, such as a nice comment consistently, might help to neutralize the actions of the bully. Unconditional love from our kids might be as simple as a  "hello" in the hall...

Also, my girl  and I have "role-played" what she could do/say to a bully, which would  help prepare her for the real interaction. Quite uncomfortable for me, I don't like to be a bully, but for our kids  we'll do  anything, right? Wink

Love Stacey



Edited by RLL Stacey - 12 Jun 2012 at 11:05am
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